“Seth material” search engine (Jane Roberts)

It is because of this instantaneous creation and projection of inner reality into form that you experience time within the physical system—to train you literally, to give you time to learn to handle your own creations. Projection experiments should only be adopted therefore when you are in a peaceful state of mind, as Ruburt should know after his creature experience.

There are more than your thought forms in other words. Your thought forms however can be used as definite aids when you are in the proper mental condition, and they can impede your progress if you are not. In physical reality a man in a desperate frame of mind is more apt to emphasize horrible aspects in the news, for example, and to see desperation rather than joy in the faces of those he meets. He will ignore the contented playful child on one side of the street, and notice instead a dirty ragged boy even though he be further away. So your frame of mind when projecting will largely determine the sort of experiences you have, and the environments you visit.

You did not want to project, per se. You wanted to be here to offer reassurance. The desire got you here. Your conscious mind was taken up fully with your activities, giving the inner self full rein. In the same way do you travel in other realities without being aware of your journeys. You were not frightened, either of you, because of the familiar surroundings, and you were unusually free to express your feelings for each other, released from restraints of time.

For your own purposes an unfinished painting on your easel would help you project to your studio, for you would psychically wish to return to study it. You have in fact often done this, though you do not remember. It would be to your advantage to try some experiments together however. Besides this the two of you travelling together could help each other retain proper consciousness and purpose during projection. If Ruburt knows he is projecting he should try to remember you, and to rouse you astrally.

[...] It was this that gave him the idea of a projection experiment. [...] You did not want to project per se, necessarily. [...] Your conscious mind was fully taken up with your activities at the art department, giving the inner self full rein.

It is because of this instantaneous creation and projection of inner reality outward into form that you experience time within the physical system — to train you, to give you time to learn to handle your own creations. Projection experiments, then, should only be tried when you are in a peaceful state of mind, as Ruburt should know after his black creature experience [described in The Seth Material].

[...] For example, a man in a desperate frame of mind is more apt to emphasize the unpleasant aspects of the news and to see bitterness rather than the joy in the faces of those he meets. [...] So your frame of mind when projecting will largely determine the kind of experiences you have.

Since this book is about the dream state, including dream projections, this is not the place to compare waking, trance and dream projections. I simply hope to show some of the types of projections possible from the dream state. The following experience was Carl Watkins’ first projection, January 6, 1969.

I have told you that some portion of our sessions involves projection. [...] There will be a time when Ruburt will project out of his body during sessions and remember what transpires while I speak through his body. When projections occur now he is not consciously aware of them. [...] I will go into this perhaps soon, for there are the similarities here and significances, involving states of consciousness used by both Ruburt and myself, and the type of projection achieved. [...] Less satisfactory projections cause distortions, you see, that are characteristic features of this state of consciousness at that time.

[...] If you keep your mind on me when you give your projection suggestions, it will be easier for you to remember our encounters.

If you call on me to help you in a dream projection, I will help you, though you may or may not remember the dream projection or my help. Joseph will find himself more likely to remember simple projections that do not involve any featured levitation. [...]

[...] Your projections do involve you in extensive levitations from the dream state, but you recall only a few. The most extensive traveling is done in nightly excursions, but it is easiest to remember those dream projections that occur during naps in the day, simply because the waking consciousness is more alert.

[...] You are seeing the image that you have projected upon him, and no one can live up to that image. [...] You will never have any relationship with the Dick Reed that you have projected upon a living human being. [...] That imagined image is real in your mind, it is reality. But you cannot project that image upon another human being and deny him his own reality. [...]

[...] You are so used to the image that you have projected outward that you are uncomfortable when you try to face a situation nakedly without the image. You project the image on one specific individual so strongly. You also project it in any of your relationships, as a rule, with men who are older than yourself. You do not want to or had not wanted to face even a transient relationship with a man because you did not then have time, you see, to project this image in any dependable manner. [...] You did not have time to project the image upon him, and you were afraid to see clearly without it. [...]

[...] These qualities you attempt to project into the male that you meet. [...] At the same time, you hope and pray subconsciously that the man will disappoint you because this male in your mind has godlike qualities that attract you; on the other, you see him as all powerful and as one who gives out punishment and one who is unreasoning and cruel because you felt that your father was cruel. [...]

[...] In the back of your mind, however, you are always saying—see Daddy, I am doing something well—for this father of yours in your mind is always behind your shoulder watching you and judging you; now this is your attitude that I am describing. [...]

A kind of projection can occur, but never a full projection of this type. A fragment may project, you see, but one atom could not contain the full projecting consciousness of an adult human mind.

Projection can occur then in those terms or directions also. [...] The consciousness that ordinarily projects in an out-of-body experience could not practically project into one atom. [...]

Your physical personalities as you know them are projecting personalities from the whole inner self. But the projecting fragments themselves, you see, do not come and leave unaffected, but grow and mature and develop, really, other portions of the self in continuing extensions. There are no dead-end projections.

[...] This form is much like the form in which you project, but the form which you project is not truly complete, for there must be some (underlined) division of vitality so that physical existence is maintained during out-of-body episodes.

He projects it in a dimension unperceived by the conscious mind. But even though it has served his purposes and he contracts, the expansion and projection of energy has taken place and he cannot call it back. [...]

They will then think that there is no real comparison to be made between the two, since each individual dream world would be a conglomeration of diverse individualistic symbols, even if they were projected into a type of universe of which the conscious mind was ignorant.

The conscious mind does not even know, and cannot of itself command, the legs to walk across the floor. Is it any wonder, then, that the conscious mind does not know how it creates the dream universe?

[...] If a dream object or event does so straddle what you call not only time but space, and if as I say dream objects and creations maintain some independence from the dreamer, then you must see that although the dreamer creates his dreams for his own purposes, selecting only those symbols which have meaning to him, he nevertheless projects them outward in a value fulfillment and psychic expansion.

[...] This is because in your mind violence and destruction are the same thing. [...] You become afraid of projecting ideas or desires outward, for in the back of your mind you think that what is powerful is evil.

Until you are honest with yourself and become consciously aware of yourself, you cannot honestly relate with others; you will project upon them your own fears and prejudices. [...] You must become consciously aware of what you tell yourself is true every moment of the day, for that is the reality that you project outward.

(Bert C.: “My true feelings, despite what I might project consciously?”)

[...] When you project your ideas outward, you often behave as if they were not yours but belonged to another. [...]

[...] I said, recognize within yourself those evils that you recognize in others, but I meant only those things that in your own mind you set up as evil for you project those things upon others and make your own reality. [...]

[...] I understand your feeling and your sense of accomplishment but also remember in your heart that the most stereotyped unoriginal suburbanite, in your terms, has within him all the capabilities of which we speak so that you do not, in your own mind, set him down as a caste system for that is what has been done to you. [...]

[...] Now we have been through this with keener minds than your own. [...]

You are speaking about one specific group of tests and the doubt exists, you see, in your mind and while that particular kind of doubt exists nothing will convince you. [...]

[...] I didn’t realize that I was projecting at first — I didn’t have the presence of mind, say, to order myself to burst through the door into the living room. [...]

(I felt as though I might project again, so I kept trying while Jane lay quietly beside me. [...] The projection, small as it was, had seemed so easy and natural that I wondered why it wasn’t a commonplace. [...]

[...] Ever since April 21 I have been waiting expectantly, and in vain, for another projection. On a different occasion I had a rather small out-of-body that trailed behind it, for almost two weeks, a series of incomplete projections or dream experiences containing distorted elements of such phenomena. [...]

Projections occur of course in the sleep state constantly, whether or not they are remembered. They are recalled when there is some reason to do so, some merit or obvious achievement involved, as in societies where it is considered highly advantageous to use dreams and projections.

[...] Then these materializations of panic and pain play about the physical body, projected by the ego and stealing the powers of the subconscious mind from their natural constructive tasks to do so. [...]

Your Malba spoke correctly when she said that this was a lifetime project, and you know me well enough by now to know that I am going about it in my own way. [...] You must realize that just your personal data is a project in itself, and just to cover this one life at that.

[...] I also know your mind is filled with ponderous questions, like an endless chasm filled to the brim with heavy rocks. [...]

[...] The subconscious forms and projects the materializations of the ego as a tool to enable it to attain its goals. [...]

[...] This intense desire would then act something like a core of energy projected outward from your own mind, given a form, your form. [...]

[...] However, these forms are not mere projections — “flat” images. [...]

These projections, then, actually are sent out constantly. [...]

[...] You projected it unknowingly, but through quite natural laws. [...]

[...] Those tensions were projected upon it by mental states of mind. [...]

In Ruburt’s particular case, tense states of mind have been primarily responsible for his physical difficulty. [...]

[...] If you will forgive me, the excellent material means automatically, however, that many people with excellent intellects are naturally drawn to it, and some of the minds that will be important in following years are already acquainted with the material, or will be. [...]

[...] With the projection experiments you have in mind, this information becomes highly practical. [...]

Look at this projection from the dream state, for example. One morning after breakfast I lay down to try a dream projection. This simply means that I can sometimes recognize when I am dreaming, bring my normal “waking consciousness” into the dream situation, and then use it to project my consciousness elsewhere. [...]

Whole blocks of sessions deal with the methods used and the conditions that can be met in projections of consciousness from the dream state. Seth says that he has personally assisted me in some of my own projection experiments, but that I have not been aware of his assistance. [...]

[...] Although I’d read of people being attacked by demons or the like while they were “projecting,” I just didn’t believe in demons. [...]

The inner state of each individual mind is projected outward. [...]

[...] Our Jesuit finds spontaneous projections most beneficial on a subconscious level, to relieve pressure. [...]

They can be disastrous in a projecting personality, incidentally.

[...] The weather, at any given time, is a direct physical interpretation of the inner mass mind. [...]

[...] Now in some important respects the reasoning mind is like the government in this analogy. [...] They overreact, or overmobilize, using a disproportionate amount of energy and time for defense, and taking energies away from other projects. The reasoning mind acts in the same fashion when paranoid beliefs are in power. [...]

The thinking mind to a large degree directs the activity of great spontaneous forces, [with] energy-cellular organization being, say, the captain (pause) of the body’s great energy sources. The reasoning mind defines, makes judgments, deals with the physical objects of the world, and also with the cultural interpretations current in its time.

So what we want, obviously, is to ensure that the conscious mind, with its reasoning processes, can make proper adjustments about the nature of the world and the individual citizens within it. I will return later to the purposes of man’s conscious mind in nature, and part of that discussion will fall in our book (Dreams).

[...] Man’s reasoning mind adds an atmosphere to nature (pause), that is as real, say, as the Van Allen Belts (or radiation fields) that surround the earth.

[...] On the other hand, Fell did not go for the next projects that he either offered or had in mind—nor did Ace Books, who fell into the same category. [...]

[...] The question I asked at its end—about what effects my opinions of Prentice-Hall might have had on Jane over the years—has been on my mind ever since I asked it, and Seth replied that it was “too big a subject” to go into at once. [...]

(Yet she found the changes frightening, although she kept in mind Seth’s material that the fright was not to be feared but understood as expressing buried fears, to put it simply. [...]

(Now I explained to Jane what I considered to be “a gorgeous little illustration” of how unconscious hassles can go on in the psyche quite unsuspected by the conscious mind as the cause for physical difficulties: As stated, when I woke up this afternoon my stomach hurt. [...]

[...] When you find yourself facing such negative images in your mind and projecting them into the future, you should at once mentally wipe out that image and replace it with a constructive image, seeing yourself, for example, sitting in command of a well-ordered room.

[...] If you think that tomorrow Johnny F will misbehave in study hall, you should, in your mind, replace this with the image of Johnny F behaving very well. [...]

[...] Any time you see yourself in your mind as unhealthy or staggering, you must immediately wipe the image away and make an effort to see instead a mental image of yourself as healthy and strong.

[...] When you are in a poor state of mind, you automatically affect the others you meet, negatively. [...]

[...] Apart from that, the legend as picked up, so to speak, by Plato (see Appendix 14) was a precognition of the future probability, an image of an inner civilization of the mind actually projected outward into the future, where it would be used as a blueprint, dash — the lost grandeur, as, in other terms, Eden became the lost garden of paradise.

[...] Imaginatively both Ruburt and Joseph saw themselves living there, and a certain amount of psychic energy was projected into that house.

[...] The great strength and resiliency of the body will be much better understood; not because medical science makes spectacular discoveries — though it will — but because the mind’s alliance with the body will be seen more clearly.

In this probability of which I speak, the species will begin to encounter the great challenge inherent in fulfilling the vast untouched (forcefully) — underlined — potential of the human body and mind. [...]

[...] Physical growth exists in terms of your sense of continuity, and therefore is projected into space and time. The evolving mind takes up no space. [...]

[...] Later, while I was living in my hometown of Sayre, PA, I received a phone call from Ed inviting me to work with him on a project in Saratoga Springs, NY. [...] It will be recalled that it was in the dance hall at York Beach that Jane and I saw the projected fragments of our own personalities, that Seth dealt with so extensively in the 9th session, of December 18, 1963. [...]

[...] This time, through the creation of beauty in paintings, he more than makes up for past errors; not only because paintings certainly should possess beauty, but because they instill positive creative thoughts in the mind of the beholder.

[...] The lost town incident was extremely significant to him, and represented his subconscious projection of a memory from a past life upon the present.

[...] So this pattern should not be applied in your minds and projected.

[...] It develops that another speaker, thought not available, may, or has, change[d] his mind.

You have a tendency to project this upon each other. [...]

[...] (Long pause.)There are some family problems on his mind. [...]